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Money Saving Advice – How to Budget with FREE online budgeting app Mvelopes

May 27, 2012 by Kyith 6 Comments

Many friends have asked me to teach them budgeting, how to save money or where to save money. So today i will show you how to budget with Mvelopes, an online budgeting platform that I found recently.

Saving money starts from effective budgeting planning

Most folks who find themselves out of control with money because instead of letting the power of compounding work for them it lets the concept work against them.

If you build good money habits in your high school, college and university days, it compounds later in life in that you start off right and you will see good money flowing in.

In contrast, if you build bad money habits such as not finding out about personal finance, the benefits and repercussions of debt, the lack of these knowledge will compound when you come out to work, when you have more money to mismanage.

Most folks I encounter are not so bad that things cannot be remedied. It all starts from an audit of how you spend money in the past. Then they asked themselves where they want to be.

This follows by a plan how you will spend your money. This is the budget.

What I use and the problem with all these Apps

I have stated in the past that I practice virtual enveloping using Quicken as my main tool to male sense of my money.[Read my guide here] I also reviewed YNAB and it is a pretty great product as well.[YNAB]

In the current market, I find that there are many cheap/free budgeting software that just don’t measure up. The paid software are pretty well done up with the functionalities I am looking for. However, the people that needs the most help probably will not budge to spend 100 bucks per year or 60-80 bucks to acquire them.

What do I mean by not measuring up?

Basically I think there are a list of requirements that a money managing app should have to be able to monitor and control your money :

  1. Create multiple accounts
  2. Create recurring scheduled transactions and money transfers between accounts
  3. Money transfers between accounts
  4. Easy to understand and use
  5. A transaction search function

Quicken fit that need. So does YNAB. The problem is all those online ones do not. They don’t do scheduling of transactions.

The focus for these apps is that they are very US centric and thus make it a point to integrate with various banks and financial institution to have automatic aggregation of bank transactions.

For international investors this is not a priority.

Thus it is great that I manage to find this online personal finance app call Mvelopes.

Mvelopes

Mvelopes is an online personal finance portal that enables its subscribers to manage their money using the enveloping methodology

This will enable them to make sense of their finance goals and be able to clear their debt.
There are many advantages of using Mvelopes:

  • It used to cost $9.90 usd per month to manage your money. That’s hefty. Since January 2012 they have moved to a freenium model, but still keep the $9.90 plan.
  • The free plan restricts you to 4 accounts, and 25 envelopes and do not have the debt repaying and bill payment functionality. That doesn’t sound so bad unless you have more than 4 banking accounts. 25 envelopes is alot for a starter to work with. Hell I couldn’t even cross 20 envelopes. As international investors we do not appreciate the integration to institution that much but think US folks with more accounts may want think of upgrading should they like it
  • It most single use case is to perform envelope budgeting
  • It allows recurring transactions
  • It allows splitting your transactions into more than one envelope
  • Its repository is in the web which means that you can review it anywhere you want
  • Its for both android and ios app to enable easy review and input of transactions on the go

And that for the price of free.

Why Envelope Budgeting?

I believe that envelope budgeting is a more psychological way to manage and control your finances.

Recall the steps of envelope budgeting:

  1. Identify your goals and how money is related to them. List down your goal-based money category
  2. Create envelopes to let you control those goals
  3. Come up with how much should go into each envelopes
  4. When salary comes into your bank account, fund those envelopes
  5. Spend based on those envelope
  6. Periodically review your envelopes, goals and allocation

The beauty of enveloping unlike traditional money management is that it places review and setting limits  before consumption. The amount of money you fund gets depleted if you spend too fast and it builds up if you spend too little.

That way it is intuitive to tell whether you are over or underspending.

Drilling down to a detail level enables you to be able to know what are the accounts you can cut funding to.

Our example – Jack

Jack is your regular salaried Singapore worker. He just started work not too long ago and draws a salary of $3000. Jack does not have 13 month bonus, but this amount is divided into 12 months of $250 of performance bonus. He also gets a $550 allowance.

So Jack is an avid reader of Investment Moats and he decides to sign up for Mvelopes to be his money management platform.

He finally gets to the main screen and the first thing he does is go to Accounts. There he creates two savings account he use currently: POSB and Standard Chartered.

These are the two accounts which is pay will flow into and fund his future.

Identifying his life goals and the envelopes

Jack remembers coming across this Infographic on Investment Moats, and the life goals illustrated matches close to his.

Those will be his life goals. The next step is to come up with envelopes  linked to these life goals.

Jack’s tasks is basically to decompose these life goals into smaller packages.

Expense will decomposed to Family Contribution, Household, Insurance, Meals, Medical/Healthcare, Personal Utilities, Transport.

Play will decomposed to Entertainment/Recreation,Gifts, Hobbies, Merchandise and Grooming, Vacation.

The task at hand is to balance how much control versus ease of management.

Budgeting Income

Jack goes to the Budget tab and selects Income. This is where Jack will list out his three sources of income.

Note that the income for each is higher than what I told folks on top, as these includes contribution by employers to your Central Provident Fund (CPF)

Jack can specify when he will be paid and when is the next pay date.

The data provided here will be made use of in his subsequent planning

Creating his spending plan

Next, Jack clicks on the Spending Plan Tab. Here he first click on the green plus on the left side where he will be able to create 2 things: Groups and Envelopes. The groups will be how the envelopes are grouped together, and in this case it will be Jack’s Life Goals.

The envelopes will be the envelopes Jack planned for previously.

The unique thing about Mvelopes is that Jack can specify whether the spending method is Average Amount or Monthly Detail, which lets Jack plan his spending in detail.

The result is something like the above. Jack has created many envelopes tag against life goal group and have assigned how much he should allocate to each envelope. Notice that he is able to change the allocation in this view and not having to go into the detail view by clicking on the edit icon.

At the bottom, the table shows a summary Total Incomes versus Total Expenses. It helps Jack to see if he is over allocating or under allocating.

How much should Jack allocate to each envelope?

The trick here is for Jack to allocate all his income so that he is left with zero.

  1. Amongst his envelopes there are many constrained envelopes. These can be split into two categories: the Needs and the Strategic
  2. The Needs are envelope who belong to life goals that supports Jack and his family. Without these or under allocating these will directly affect life. These envelopes has to be adequately funded. Examples are Household, Transport, Personal Utilities
  3. The Strategic will be envelopes that in many ways provide a better future quality of life for Jack or Family. It will be very short sighted to ignore adequately funding them. Examples are the Investment Warchest, Insurance
  4. There will be a time during reviewing where Jack have to see if there are alternatives to certain Needs. Can he switch to a scooter instead of owning a car? Would that save money?
  5. There will be a time during reviewing that Jack have to think which Strategic Life Goal is more important. Perhaps he should put his own higher education above saving for his future child’s university fund
  6. For the rest of the envelopes that are not constrained, It is up to Jack to decide

Allocate according to your funding plan

Next Jack clicks on Funding Plan to allocate his income into each envelope. Note that this is still a plan! This is not the actual funding.

Here Jack allocates which envelope gets funded by which income source. Do note that Jack here gets his income in all at the same time. It may matter more when the income comes in on different dates.

The goal here is to ensure all the envelopes are fully funded.  You can see that under Investment Pot the $950 actually comes from two sources.

Setting scheduled Income Deposits

Next Jack will need to deposit his income into his two accounts (POSB and Standard Chartered)

But Jack doesn’t want to do it every month during pay day. He can set up automatic recurring transaction for his income so that every month these income gets auto added as transaction during pay day.

Jack clicks on the gear icon to bring him to the Automation Manager.

Here Jack can set up his Recurring Transactions. These transactions auto inserts into the POSB account.

Note: Unlike Quicken, Mvelopes does not give you a scheduled recurring list and you have the option of approving the transaction. This gives you the opportunity to amend the transaction in case you don’t have the chance to login to Mvelopes.

This is also one area Quicken is much superior.

This means that if Jack got a raise or got his allowances cut suddenly, he would have to quickly change the recurring transaction before the pay date or amend the transactions for this month and update himself.

With the deposits automated, Jack can start funding his envelopes!

Funding his envelopes periodically

Recap: Jack’s income gets deposited into his POSB account every month. All his cash gets aggregated in total. This is the amount he can “Fund” his Envelopes.

Jack clicks on the dollar icon on top.

This is where it might get a bit confusing. The $6150 is the amount available. Why isn’t it $10405? That’s because Jack had already did one round of funding. So Mvelope automatically takes that portion off the equation. Jack only has 6150 to fund for the next round.

In the column amount to be funded, Jack can choose the amount to fund. He does not have to always fund the amount set aside in his funding plan.

Alternatively he can choose to check the checkbox next to Funding Remainder, which will automatically fund each envelope with the full amount.

To carry out the round of funding, Jack can click on the Fund button.

But before we click the button, Jack can choose to save this funding set using the Save Customer Profile button.

In the future, Jack can choose Fund using a saved profile and choose this saved profile.

Start tracking the spending

With all that set up one time, all Jack has to do is track his spending

Jack can click on which envelope he wants to use, in this case, the Transport envelope since he made 2 trips of $1.03 each.

He will click the cross to create a new transaction. One thing I don’t like compare to Quicken is consistently being forced to put a Payee.

You can also make this transaction recurring.

Here, Jack has a scheduled transaction where Mvelopes will automatically insert an expense to the Insurance envelope assigned to POSB bank on every 24th of the month.

This is ideal for bills that is automatically debit from your bank account.

Mvelopes will also allow Jack to split a particular bill into more than one envelope. If Jack goes to the supermarket, he may buy items from more than one places.

Review and Add Transaction Via Smartphone

Mvelopes have Android and iOS Apps to allow Jack to easily add transactions to it. My only gripe about the apps is that they are very very unpolished . But still the ubiquity is great.

Reviewing Your Spending Plan

For the most part, Jack will be doing monthly Funding and Tracking of spending that’s all. On a quarterly basis, it will be good for him to review his spending plan.

Is he allocating too much to something? Can cash be free up to be allocated to somewhere needed? If not, perhaps he can increase his buffer cash?

These are some considerations.

Jack may want to cross check if the amount in Mvelopes are similar to his actual POSB and Standard Chartered account.

If Jack is not using some money in one of his Play account, and feels in the future he would not need to set aside money for that, he can always transfer to the Buffer Cash envelope.

That looks like a lot of work!

Many complain to me that they do not want to track their spending every day. It is a whole lot of work.

To me, I don’t think it’s a lot of work. The key here is to automate as much of the bill payments as possible.

All your income gets credited automatically via the system. So are most of your bills paid by GIRO.

So what u end up doing are

  1. Funding. Probably once a month
  2. Record items on credit card bills. 1 to 3 times per month
  3. Groceries. 5 times per month
  4. Daily meals and transport. 30 times per month

How long do you think these will take? I don’t think it is a lot.

What don’t I like about Mvelopes?

Here are some things I hope can be improved upon:

  1. Flash. I cannot believe this site still runs on Adobe Flash when every one is moving to HTML 5. This would mean you cannot access Mvelopes on a Safari iPhone browser
  2. Scheduled Recurring Transactions automatic. I would have prefer that they let us approve inserting the transactions into the database instead of automatic.
  3. Slow Speed. Every thing seems slow. Perhaps because it was made free.
  4. Crappy Smartphone Apps.Nuff said.

Conclusion

I really appreciate the team choosing to have a free version. Many folks who need something like this are already facing a financial crunch and asking them pay 120 per annum perhaps is not a sensible thing.

That said, great product. It is ubquitous and does a great budgeting method well.

I would probably still be on Quicken, but I will run Mvelope concurrently.

Do give it a try and tell me what you think.

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Saving and Investing My Money:Support your spouse for education

May 20, 2011 by Kyith 2 Comments

I came across this really nice reader story on Get Rich Slowly that I would like to share with everyone.

It is about how a wife who is better educated is supporting her husband to pursue an education to better equipped himself to get a career.

I grew up in a semi-happy, semi-miserable household. My mom and dad fought a lot about money. Later in life, I realized it was because my dad didn’t ever felt successful in the career — or 20 careers — that he’s held over the years. He didn’t have a formal education after high school, but my mom has her BA and just recently added another degree into the mix. My parents have been married for over 28 years, and when I look back at my childhood, I realize that my mom did most of the raising and was always steady, while my dad was off trying something new. He still hasn’t found his “niche”, and I doubt he ever will. (My dad has doubts, too.)

I didn’t want this to be my life. I want to be a provider — but I want an equal provider in my spouse. Although I know that we’ll probably fight about money, at least I won’t have to worry about him feeling less worthy. I want an equal. I want to disqualify education and money as “argument” topics. I want to have a good marriage to someone who is happy with his career and happy with his life. This education, for my husband, will give him a stronghold in both.

[Read full story here >> ]

Wife earning more than the husband

Much of the role of breadwinner have change with women being able to take control career wise and not being seen as homemakers and child bearers.

I do see more instances where the husband earns less than the wife, and the guys take it differently. Some see this as a simple change in responsibilities and is able to be accommodating to it. While others are not able to accept the fact that they earn less than their spouse or do form an inferior complex because they are lower educated as compare to their spouse.

In many cases it never ends up well.

Constant studying and improving

I guess not just in Singapore but around the world people are constantly upgrading their skills. But when one embark on a massive higher education, there needs to be a lot of communication , planning and understanding within the family to make it work.

One has to create enough savings to ensure that if you quit to study, you have enough to last for that 1-2 year duration with that absence of working compensation.

It is never going to be an easy journey, but is the reward worth it? In Singapore, having a degree looks like a must, but if everyone had a degree, how much can we truly moved up?

It becomes worse when the country have such a policy that brings in cheaper foreign talents to make sure your salary is low, it really depreciates the value of higher education.

In the end, it is still a constant rat race to do what you must to give your family a better life.

Filed Under: Budgeting, Personal Finance Tagged With: personal finance, Saving and Investing My Money

Why you should track your spending habits using a budget application like Quicken

January 4, 2011 by Kyith 5 Comments

In past articles I explain adequately how to go about creating a budget easily and my preferred method of budgeting using virtual envelopes.

With Smartphones like iPhone and Android getting popular, many would say that all they have to keep track is just 1 month spending and do it in their smartphone.

My advice is to use one that you can keep track and review for a long time. Preferably, I hope that GNUCash, which is opensource would be able to do that but sadly its too complex for me to recommend to you guys.

Your Spending Trail is your unconventional diary

If you input every purchases into it, chances are you are able to learn about not just your spending habits but little bits of information that otherwise is hard to remember.

So lets say you want to find out whether the oven you bought for mom has expired. You could try to look for the warranty card, but the easy way is to turn to your Quicken and you will be able to spot that you bought it some where in end july and probably you have another 7 months to go.

Notice that I do have a fair bit of notes and tags in the memo section. These will help you along the way to easily search for these items.

When did I last received payment?

Here is another unique situation. I share my cable tv cost with my brother, but as the subscription is under my account, I paid for it.

Periodically my bro will pay me back but how do I know when was the last time he paid me?

I use the search function to find “cable tv” and appropriately it showed me all the payments under “Cable Tv” category and a gift received tagged with cable tv. Now I know how much I should as him to pay me back!

It gives you a summary of how bad a situation is

Having consolidated near 6 years of data, you can review a particular category of your spending.

Here is a 5 year consolidation of how much I spend on medical. This is from 2005 to 2010.

It is by far an astounding figure. It goes to show that if you keep yourself healthy how much money you can actually save.

Conclusion

I hope I give you some great examples why you should not rely just on your iPhone or Android budget app.

Your spending trail can be very useful to you.

Investment Moats is an investment weblog focusing on dividend investing, growing passive income and personal finance. Learn how to easily budget with my envelope budgeting strategy to save money and not overspend.

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How to budget with envelope budgeting to save money easily

November 28, 2010 by Kyith 29 Comments

Many people have asked me what kind of budgeting method I find is the most effective in budget planning. I don’t think they deviate much but the one that I find the most effective is Envelope Budgeting.

What is Envelope Budgeting?

It is a systematic way to plan how much money you have to spend and how you go about to spend it in a control manner.

How does Envelope Budgeting work?

envelope budgeting

Envelope Budgeting can be broken down into 4 steps:

  1. Plan your budget spending categories
  2. Create envelopes or containers to hold the cash allocated to spend
  3. Spend within the limits set!
  4. Monitor and Review your Envelope Budgeting Plan

1. Plan your budget spending categories

First step is to create categories of what you will spend on. Take note to include the most obscure spending, such as a one time child kindergarten fee, or a fee on an art course.

A lot of applications give you default categories and they are very useful because they are comprehensive, but it is much more worth it to do this as an exercise on your own because it enables you to come to grips with what you are always spending on.

One way to do this is to take 1-2 months, keep all your receipts to keep an audit trail of your present spending. [More info here >>]

I did this exercise initially and came up with the following categories that defines all that I spent on:

  1. Merchandise – cloths and apparels
  2. Entertainment spending – nights out and things to loosen up
  3. Family Contribution – money for the family
  4. Gifts – includes red packets for weddings or chinese  new year, white gold for funerals and birthday gifts.
  5. Haircut – for cutting hair
  6. Hobby – all things related to any hobbies that I may enjoy
  7. Household – home improvements
  8. Magazines and Books – books and magazines purchase
  9. Medical – for my medical needs
  10. Vacation – travel to other places for fun
  11. Buffer fund – cash for emergency needs
  12. Business – funding for business endeavors
  13. Insurance – payments for term, disability and personal accident insurance
  14. Meals – food that I eat
  15. Transportation – moving from point to point cost
  16. Utilities – cable tv, internet, handphone
  17. Investments – money saved up to grow

The trick here is that each category should be targeting some times. This means that I don’t really need a Medical category, but if my health is a on-going concern, I might want to separate it out for tracking.

Second step is then to set an upper limit for each category you can spend.

spending categories

Note: if you total up all these 17 categories, they should equate to your disposable income.

2. Create envelopes or containers to hold the cash allocated to spend

Once you have your categories, you translate them to envelopes on a monthly or an annual basis.

Whenever, you received your paycheck, split your paycheck to the upper limit that you set in the previous step and then put into these envelopes.

For those who think that envelopes are really old fashion solutions, there are other methods.

I too think its not feasible to split into envelopes. Imagine what would happen if you lose those envelopes.

virtual accounts

What I do is that I create virtual accounts in the budget planning software I use. This be it GNUCash, Quicken, Mint or iOS applications.

In the above example I created the categories on the left panel into virtual accounts.

schedule transactiosn

To automate the process if you are using applications like this, I normally setup before hand these monthly paychecks and transfers to these virtual accounts in Quicken so that come every x day of the month, these “envelope splitting” takes place automatically.

What happens here is that although physically, your money is in one account but you have map out how much you can only use in each category.

3. Spend within the limits set!

Once you did the hardwork for Step 1&2 all you need to focus on is not exceeding that spending.

In my opinion, this method works because you create an upper limit to how much you can spend on each spending objective. It creates both a physical limit and sometimes a psychological limit.

4. Monitor and Review your envelope budget plan

Monitor and review is an ongoing process that you do probably quarterly or half-yearly.

When you key into your application daily or weekly, you would have observe the changes in your account.

If you spend too much, the consistent red figure highlights to you that you are exceeding your limits and you have to drastically cut down on them.

This might mean that you are not discipline in your spending or that you have allocated too little.

If it’s the latter, you might want to change the limit. Do note to ensure they always total to your income.

A great side effect to this is that you will also observe certain debt category being cleared. A –$2127 in medical account indicates that I have drastically overspend in this category. If I am able to bring it down to positive, then it means probably I am probably giving up on myself or getting better!

You will also be able to monitor whether you saved up enough for that gadget you would always want to purchase or the vacation to the Maldives you have been dreaming of.

Conclusion

I do hope this is helpful for everyone. I had a longer more tedious article detailing how envelope budgeting can assist in your overall spending plan and clearing debts. If you are interested you can read it at How to create a budget plan in 10 easy steps

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Filed Under: Budgeting, Personal Finance Tagged With: envelope budgeting, gnucash, mint, mvelope, personal finance, quicken

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