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Profitable Plots: More Nasty News Follows

When you operate a business that piss off so many people, yet evades to answer them this is likely the things you get.

THEY came to demand answers and they were in no mood to take no for an answer.
So they marched up to two Caucasian men who were having a smoke and surrounded them.
The group of 11 men and one woman wanted to talk to one of the Caucasian men regarding their investments.

They identified him as Mr John Nordmann, group operations director of Profitable Group, a global investment firm, which, according to its website, has interests ranging from lubricants to property.
They claimed that the firm had not made good on its promises to them.
But the conversation outside Profitable Group’s Stanley Street office in Shenton Way soon spiralled out of control into a shouting match. There was even some pushing.
Mr Nordmann told the group: “Calm down.Why don’t you e-mail me your individual cases?”
His suggestion was not only instantly rejected, but it also upset some of the investors.
Said one of them, who gave his name only as Chris: “We have been e-mailing you for the last one year. Stop treating us as though we do not exist.”
The shouting outside the office around 3pm attracted the attention of people at a coffee shop nearby. They got up from their seats and turned their heads towards the commotion.
This was when Mr Nordmann invited the group to go up to the firm’s office to discuss the matter.
One of those in the group, a 37-year-old who gave his name only as Mr Rajan, was overheard saying to a fellow investor: “We’re actually very lucky to see the director outside the office. We were always referred to his subordinates every time we came here.”
The day’s confrontation had its beginnings with the group’s investments with Profitable Group between 2006 and 2009.
They said the terms of their investments, which they claimed promised them a certain return after six months, had not been honoured.
The 12 people claimed that their individual investments in land and lubricants with Profitable Group totalled about $700,000.
And none of them had received any returns, they claimed. They had met on an online forum where they shared their experiences.
Chris claimed he had “pumped in” the most money.
“I have invested more than $180,000… Enough is enough, I’m willing to forfeit my returns so long as the company pay me back the money I have put in,” he said.
After Mr Nordmann’s invitation to the group, another commotion broke out. An investor later told The New Paper that they were upset because he wanted to go up first whereas they wanted to group with him.
During the tense exchange, Mr Nordmann managed to take the lift to his office.

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Raj Chotrani

Monday 2nd of April 2012

Yes, I do feel strongly about the issue.

I feel strongly about the fact they (and several of their employees) misguided the pubic into buying so-called investment products that are likely fraudulent.

I feel strongly that the directors had never bothered to communicate with investors about the status of the investmnets after the CAD raided their office in 2010.

I feel strongly that hundreds of lower-income and lower middle-income members of the public may have seen a huge chunk of their savings gone forever.

I feel strongly that our Government allows foreigners to come into our country and sell so-called investment products without any supervisory egulation.

Raj Chotrani

Thursday 29th of March 2012

The THREE DIRECTORS of PROFITABLE PLOTS were ARRESTED and CHARGED on Tuesday 26 March, 2012, in Singapore.

I have pasted the article published in Singapore's Business Times on 27 March, below:

Profitable Plots directors charged with cheating

The three were each accused of authorising an unidentified agent of Profitable Plots to mislead investors into thinking their funds 'would be used exclusively to finance the purchase of Boron CLS Bond that had purportedly been pre-sold to major corporations. -BT Grace Leong

Wed, Mar 28, 2012 The Business Times

SINGAPORE - Three directors of beleaguered land banking firm Profitable Plots were each charged with 86 criminal counts of cheating investors of US$2.4 million on investments related to an industrial lubricant called Boron.

John Andrew Nordmann, Timothy Nicholas Goldring and Geraldine Anthony Thomas were each charged in Singapore's Subordinate Courts with abetment for conspiracy to defraud 86 investors, according to charges brought on behalf of the Commercial Affairs Department by Kevin Yong, deputy public prosecutor for the Attorney-General's Chambers.

The three directors were each accused of authorising an unidentified agent of Profitable Plots to mislead investors into thinking their funds 'would be used exclusively to finance the purchase of Boron CLS Bond, that had purportedly been pre-sold to major corporations, which representation (they) knew to be untrue.'

It is unclear how many of the Boron investors are from Singapore. So far, no criminal charges have been brought against Profitable Plots over the land investment products it offered.

'This will give comfort to the PP investors who've been anxiously waiting for the outcome of the investigations,' said David Gerald, president and chief executive of Securities Investors Association (Singapore).

Wendell Wong, Profitable Plots' lawyer and a director of Drew & Napier LLC, said he had requested for his clients' bail to be reduced because the amount of S$600,000 for each defendant was 'grossly excessive to secure the defendants' attendance in court.'

The court yesterday ordered Mr Wong's clients' bail to be reduced to S$400,000 each. 'But since all three can't post bail at S$400,000 each, they're remanded at Singapore Changi Remand Prison pending a criminal case disclosure conference on April 20'.

Mr Wong said the defendants will be claiming trial and defending the charges against them.

To date, more than 320 complaints have been filed with CAD against Profitable Plots, which was accused of cheating investors of more than S$30 million in various schemes it had promoted, according to a report from CAD earlier this month.

It is estimated that about 1,500 Singaporeans and 4,000 foreigners invested in Profitable Plots, which was set up in 2004. A large majority of these investors are retirees who invested their savings on the promise of high returns.

The company's clients, mostly retail investors, had put their money into various investments it offered, including land in Britain and the Philippines, and the industrial lubricant, Boron.

Among other things, the investors wanted to know what went wrong and whether the company had ever intended to honour its promise to pay a 12.5 per cent return on their investments in Boron and a real estate project in the Philippines.

The CAD, in an Oct 12 report, said it seized the company's bank accounts on suspicion of fraud relating to Profitable Plots' marketing of the investment scheme involving Boron.

The report said that a S$25.8 million loss incurred by Profitable Plots and its related companies in FY 2009 and its inability to honour its obligations to the Boron investors gave the CAD grounds to suspect that the investment schemes were concocted to defraud its clients.

It compared the complainants' claims amounting to some S$9.5 million to the company's cash balance of S$277,590.

'In addition, the directors had benefited from the scheme as their reported remuneration in FY08 and FY09 was $4,431,539 and $4,181,174, respectively,' the CAD report said.

In a statement posted on Jan 27, Profitable Plots said: 'It has been reported in the press that Profitable Plots had liabilities or over S$20 million which PP categorically denies. For financial year ended March 2009, draft accounts (they have not been filed yet due to the ongoing investigation) showed net current assets of S$95 million.'


Friday 30th of March 2012

Hi Raj, you seem to feel very strongly about this issue.


Saturday 26th of March 2011

i am interested inall future postings and happenings regd the PPP case, so pls do keep me involved. i am also interested in joining a VICTIMS group so to decide the future course of action against PPP.

Thanks Abbas - 90283024

Raj Chotrani

Wednesday 9th of March 2011

CAD's investigation against Profitable Plots reaches advanced stage By Leong Wee Keat | Posted: 09 March 2011 1525 hrs

SINGAPORE: The Commercial Affairs Department (CAD) is at an "advanced stage of investigation" into 229 complaints made against Profitable Plots Pte Limited (PPPL), a District Court heard Wednesday morning.

The complaints were from investors alleging that the company had cheated them into investing various sums of monies, totaling about S$23.5 million, in various schemes promoted by Profitable Plots.

Investigations began last August, with the Public Prosecutor seeking to freeze about S$55,548 seized by CAD for a further six months, Wednesday morning.

In his two-page report, investigating officer, Assistant Superintendent (ASP) Ho Ban Hsiung, said the Department has sought assistance from overseas law enforcement agencies and are awaiting their replies.

ASP Ho added, "We are also in the process of appointing an accounting firm to prepare an expert report on aspects of PPPL's business."

Deputy Public Prosecutor, Christopher Ong, added that CAD's investigations would probably be concluded within six months.

But Profitable Plots' lawyer, Mr Wendell Wong, argued for the immediate release of the money held by the white-collar police, adding that the company's directors have found it increasingly impossible to conduct its daily affairs.

District Judge Roy Neighbour said he would only grant the Public Prosecutor a further four months to complete their investigations.

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